Mr. Brendan Gleeson:

I am just trying to present a set of facts here. I am not trying to make a point. I am simply saying that we have just under 30,000 applicants and there is a spectrum of herd sizes and county applicants represented, which is broadly similar to the beef genomics scheme last year and the beef data scheme. Of those applicants, 60% have a herd size that is less than or equal to 20 cows.

I accept that 30,000 applicants is not the entire population of suckler farmers and, therefore, the proportion of the entire suckler population is different. I am simply presenting a set of facts here.