Mr. Brian Patterson:

I'll try. First of all, I was a non-executive chairman. That means I was in the building one or two days a week maybe. I think to bring about deep-rooted culture change in an organisation which was fairly resistant to culture change is ... it takes a long time. You can't do it overnight. It would take ongoing and energetic leadership by a chief executive and a team of executives to makes that happen and I wasn't in that position.