Mr. Patrick Neary:

Okay, thanks, Chairman, thanks very much. That ... he was suggesting there was rumours about CFDs. Nothing - no facts or anything - emerged to support that. This meeting took place. There was nothing emerging from that meeting that ... other than, I think, looking back on it, what ... may have said to me at the time, "Well, at least there's no truth in the David Drumm thing", because Mr. Quinn said that he was long in financials. So, that to me was his assertion that he did not have CFDs in Anglo.