Mr. John Hurley:

No, post-Lehman's ... when I came back to the bank - I came in briefly on the 17th but the main day was the 18th - when I came in to the bank, really this had ... this had been elevated to more senior levels and the ... it was the heads of the institutions, together with Ministers that were very deeply involved in this. But that would have involved all the support staff that had been involved in the domestic standing group as well.