Kieran O'Donnell (Limerick City, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. And what would have been your interaction with the Financial Regulator between '03 and '08? And how do you feel their role ... how did you feel their role, I suppose, was? And I can take it ... because KPMG were here before us and they confirmed that a meeting took place on 10 January 2008 with the Financial Regulator involving the big four-----