John Gilroy (Labour) | Oireachtas source

He did say that. Finally, when there was talk about legal obligations and judicial reviews, did Mr. O'Brien have any regard to how the families might have felt on hearing such public pronouncements at a time when one of the most emotive topics was being discussed widely in the media?

My final point relates to cutting budgets in the areas of training and advocacy. I would have thought that during times of constrained budgets, these are the very areas where budgets should be maintained, if not expanded, in order to maintain quality of service. I ask the witnesses to comment. I am sure they can hear the sense of frustration in my voice but I feel that I am no wiser now than I was before they spoke.