Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I wish to ask about that. As part of the - I hate using the word "testimony" because we are talking about parents - presentations to us this morning, I counted nearly 33 exchanges or interactions between the HSE and the families. In some cases, there was a 20-week delay without a hearing. That is not down to starting an investigation or being unable to source people. That is a lack of courtesy and engagement on one level.