Mr. Gordon Jeyes:

I am not saying that. I am saying the status of them was unclear. The union is correct in saying some of them were known, but there is also the question of how much they had been reviewed and how much they had been screened. In addition, other information was becoming clearer. It is a combination. The union was correct that some were known but how much they were managed because of lack of system was not known. They are correct in saying the issue of resources were raised. I am saying it was not only about resources. We were in debate about the management structure which had been far too protracted - all compliant with Haddington Road and other consultation agreements. By April, we had said, "Enough. We implement".