Mr. Dermot Gleeson:

Well, that was the way the conversation with me had proceeded, but I did ... it was made perfectly clear to us that the Government were listening to what we had to say and would make their own decision. That was said in one of the meeting, "The Government are listening to what you have to say and will make their own decisions." But then we were off, trying to find this liquidity, as I explained to Senator O'Keeffe.