Kieran O'Donnell (Limerick City, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Thanks, Chairman. Can I deal with NAMA? I suppose I want to put a question to both of you. If Anglo and Irish Nationwide were not involved would there have been any need for NAMA? I pose that question on the basis that of the par values, Anglo and Irish Nationwide make up 58%, of the discounted values they make up 53%, of the top 29 of the borrowers they account for ... the top 29 account for 46%, nearly 50% of the overall loans taken into NAMA, and of those 29, Anglo and Irish Nationwide account for 67%, over two thirds of those alone. The collateral involved and of the ... where you took, and I just----