John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

So the person who paid out the money was an entry-level civil servant. He was trained by Mr. Colgan's outfit and therefore would have known what to expect when doing the job. According to Mr. Colgan, he would have known that there was a cascade of governance and assurance-type arrangements in place. In addition, there was an expectation that he would be reporting.