Mr. Donall O'Keeffe:

Most of the points I wanted to make have been covered by the group. I will emphasise a few points for Deputy Mary Mitchell O'Connor on structural separation and minimum prices.

On structural separation, it is our clear view that section 9 should be commenced immediately and that there should be full structural separation. In addition, there would be a requirement to have dedicated staff rather than general retail personnel and a dedicated till system. The operation should be that of a business within a business. That would force the retailer to train staff specifically on their responsibilities and the responsible sale of alcohol and ensure clarity in enforcement, including who was responsible for selling to customers in the store. Structural separation is not sufficient without a dedicated staff and till systems. In our submission we have argued that the Responsible Retailers of Alcohol in Ireland is completely ineffective and a waste of time. I do not understand why we would debate it at all.

With respect to minimum price, our figures are broadly similar to what has been put forward by other groups. We propose a minimum price of €2 per 500 ml can of beer and €23.50 for a bottle of vodka which is 37.5% proof. It would be €10 for a bottle of wine. That is based simply on taking the pre-groceries order price and adjusting for inflation. The committee must think carefully about how to handle the issue of excise duty in this case, as excise duty rates vary by category, and for spirits and wine they are extremely high. If there was a high minimum price of 90 cent and excise duty and VAT were loaded on top, the price could become completely unrealistic. Focusing on a retail price to include the minimum unit price and excise duty and VAT must come to a retail price that customers will understand. That is key.