Ms Geraldine Kennedy:

I do not believe so because most of the journalists who would have got their mortgages from that particular company at that particular time would have their mortgages paid now. In other words, it was happening in another era.

I wish to raise another issue, if I may be allowed, arising from yesterday's proceedings and Mr. Harry Browne's presentation. I have some respect for Mr. Browne's views because he worked in The Irish Times. However, I am also conscious and aware of his antipathy towards The Irish Timesover the circumstances of his departure. That being said, he made a reference yesterday which could be grossly misinterpreted by the committee when he suggested to Senator MacSharry or perhaps Deputy Michael McGrath that there was some big property scam in The Irish Timesand the Senator or Deputy asked whether this meant they got bricks and mortar.