Mr. Stuart Duffin:

That is an element.

I fully agree with Deputy Byrne's comment about education. If work is a way out of poverty, then education is the ladder that helps that. That is why we see access to free fees, part-time education as a cheap form of activation for parents, and it addresses the issues around child care.

In terms of the elements around the child care system, its complexity, its lack of understanding and information in terms of who are the providers and where they are getting their after-school care etc., we have one client for whom it has taken a year to get a confirmation letter from a Department local office stating they are eligible for the out of school care. There are dysfunctional issues happening at local level that are compromising that aspect.