Mr. Evan Cullen:

We need to respond to all of this. In the first instance, it is wrong to say that Iberia, Alitalia and Swissair are in the same bracket as Sabena. That is not true. My colleague from SIPTU suggested that I said I was in favour of privatisation. That is not what I said. What is said is that had Aer Lingus not been privatised, it is very difficult to see how it would have survived the economic crash in 2009 without the buffer of the cash that was on the balance sheet from the privatisation.