Mr. Martin O'Halloran:

If I might juxtapose the children on tractors and suggest that we would be tolerant of construction sites where construction workers might carry a child in a JCB or excavator, it gives one a sense of it.

To deal with Deputy Penrose's observations and questions, certainly it would not be our intention to regulate out of existence. We would wish to present any regulation in language which is as accessible as possible. We do not use the language of "reasonably practicable". We do not use terms such as, "on the one hand" and "on the other hand". We try to make it accessible and in the language that people can relate to.

We believe training is fundamentally important. Through the discussion and knowledge transfer groups, we believe that what we have proposed will give us direct contact in a constructive environment with in the region of 1,000 or more additional farmers. It is a means to achieve the higher level of contact.