Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

To refer to the Minister's last point, whether to debate the issue or not is for a different forum.

To make a general point, the process of reforming the budgetary analysis, projections and so forth is very welcome. It is the way to do business. At the risk of shocking the Minister, I believe this is the right approach. However, ultimately its value is only reflected in its accuracy and the extent to which it is grounded in not just the real figures, but also the real demands on the system. I will refer to some concerns I have in that regard shortly.

Referring to broader budgetary reform, the Minister mentioned a performance budgeting initiative. He said it is an ongoing reform process aimed at aligning spending, that is, inputs, with achievements, that is, outputs.

Where is that being piloted, if it is being piloted, or where was this particular analytical approach applied? If the Minister could answer me, I think it is better if we talk to each other.