Ms Deirdre McCarthy:

With regard to the administrative point, we are crucified by the way they wanted us to do it previously. The LCDP programme was set up for that purpose where we were the glue and the core that held together this other work. We had a disproportionately high administrative function and cost because we are managing other things that had disproportionately low administrative functions. Years later, the dialogue is that we spent too much on administration. Maybe so, if one only looks at that alone but that is not true and it is not the case.

As Ms Sian Muldowney pointed out, under the social inclusion and community activation programme, SICAP, we are not allowed to be both, but as we are a small organisation of course we are both. We do have 12 workers, one who does administration and 11 who do everything else. We have two or three people who do everything, but we are not allowed to do both. That was the history and then we were told not to do it that way.