Ms Deirdre McCarthy:

Yes, it is for the co-operative area, which is the inner city area. I know that sometimes people are frustrated, for example, if you are running an education programme for disadvantaged adults and you have not made enormous successes at the end of it. The argument that must be put is that the level of disadvantage they have experienced is not going to be resolved by one training course. It is going to be resolved by a huge amount of input over time. That takes more time and resources. At times, what can look like overlap sometimes is not. There may be two groups working with one family or individual but that is because they need supports in different areas.