Dara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I thank Mr. Kelly and Ms Byrne. We nearly have the document written. Mr. Kelly and Ms Byrne have put into words what many of us believe, but then it goes to officialdom. Perhaps we might bring them back when the officials are before the committee. Mr. Kelly challenged us to show, rather than tell, how good we were. What exporting country does he see as being the model for sustaining entrepreneurship and providing support for start-ups?

I agree absolutely with the views of Ms Byrne on there being no support from local enterprise offices for what she termed lifestyle businesses. The argument relates to displacement. If I was to set up a company called 118901 beside Ms Byrne's company with the support of Enterprise Ireland and so on, she could justifiably say it was unfair competition. The same applies to other industries. What is Ms Byrne's view? Would she let the market win?

We have made this point before, but I am keen to tease it out a little. Ms Byrne said there was no such thing as a sales course or a course in selling available in Ireland. Will she expand on that statement? Is there nothing on offer in the institutes of technology on how to sell?