John Perry (Sligo-North Leitrim, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Perhaps in hindsight it was a retrograde step not to put in a procedure for accounts. If 128 staff are taken with pay and pensions as 82% of accounted expenditure, the 18% remaining is for incidental expenses within the college. It is approximately, at most, €4 million per year; that is the real and auditable figure. It should be very easy to audit that figure, not the €20 million.