Dr. Pat Ivory:

I accept that we need to create really good jobs in the Irish economy and that is what business is about and giving people opportunities. There are many good jobs in the Irish economy and people immigrate here, they come to Ireland to take up jobs in the Irish economy. It is not true that the Irish economy is not creating good jobs. It would be risky to assume that everybody who emigrates from a job to a job abroad is doing so for reasons of unhappiness with the job in Ireland. Equally they may be attracted by the opportunity to work abroad to gain experience to develop their careers. In some instances they may be moving abroad within the companies in which they are working. It is not straightforward to assume that somebody who moves from a job in Ireland and emigrates is doing so for reasons of quality of job or low pay. It can be for a whole range of reasons, including the opportunity to work abroad, gain experience abroad and get a really interesting career opportunity. I would say also that-----