Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 22 July 2014

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children

Section 38 and Section 39 Agencies: Health Service Executive

1:30 pm

Photo of Jillian van TurnhoutJillian van Turnhout (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I asked about the legal entities and who is funded. We have seen mixtures of organisations with regard to how companies are structured under section 38 and section 39. Are there specific requirements for the funding of organisations?

I am thankful that Ms McGuinness has taken on board the difficulty with the public's perception about the funding of these organisations. There may be a note in the annual reports and I have examined the HSE list. It is none the less very difficult even for somebody like me to know what services the State is contracting to be delivered through various charities. Very often the organisations operate under a different entity when it is being delivered to the public. The public may perceive that a service is delivered by a charity rather than as a right or entitlement. Where the vast majority of funding is coming from the State, it should be very clearly indicated. I have often seen with fund-raising organisations that less than 5% of the funding comes from the public and most is coming from the State through people's taxes. We should explore the issue further as a committee.

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