Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Can I just say to Ms Burke - I say this in a spirit of having the debate because I also read the foreword by the IBEC CEO, Mr. Danny McCoy - that if, for argument's sake, Mr. McCoy and I happened to be on a panel debating the budget, as one does, and if I or anybody else was to produce figures which suggested all sorts of interesting things but which had a hole in them of the magnitude of €385 million, we would be chastised by her CEO. Equally, for IBEC to suggest these measures - some are very helpful and make complete sense - and to have them contain an assertion that current expenditure adjustments of the order of €385 million should be just found from somewhere is, to say the least, incomplete.