Mr. Alan Jackman:

The ombudsman process involves binding arbitration. It could be, for example, just the Senator and me and the Senator would decide where I may be in conflict with somebody else. That is a civil dispute. I am saying we should forget about that for the moment. I put that complaint to the ombudsman and cannot discuss the matters arising. The important element is that in 2009 I copied the regulator on e-mails. To be fair to the Chairman, I am not going to indicate whether these matters related to my complaint to the ombudsman. The regulator replied that the matters were serious and asked that they be put forward for investigation but then went on to advise that I could not be told about it. In my personal view - I do not like saying it - I am essentially opposed to blanket debt forgiveness. The reason I say that is because people think I have an agenda. I do not have any sort of agenda.