John Halligan (Waterford, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I am somewhat confused. Mr. Crabit referred to extraordinary scenarios in which Article 7 would be invoked. If the rule of law stops short of invoking the latter - the big issue which arises here is that countries found to be in violation would not have voting rights - then what power is really available under it? I refer specifically to the position in Hungary. Is the rule of law retrospective and can it be used in respect of Hungary? The Hungarian authorities have stated that they are not now surveilling judges. However, everyone knows that judges and members of the political opposition in Hungary are under surveillance. Will Mr. Crabit outline the nature of Article 7 and indicate why we are not prepared to invoke it? Why have it if we are not in a position to invoke it? The new framework will fall short of allowing for the invocation of Article 7. If that is the case and if Hungary does not lose its voting rights as a result, what else can it lose? The Hungarians will continue to do that which they are doing at present.