Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent) | Oireachtas source

We will come to that because it is shambles. Nobody seems to be in charge there. There are no directors and nobody knows what was the deal. Part of the company is in wind-down, assets have been sold off for unknown sums with no explanation why the company has been losing money for a long time. Perhaps I will ask Mr. Goulding about that later.

I have a question for Ms McGuinness before I come back to Mr. Cregan. The HSE's case appears to be that it did not know what was going on in terms of funding of the CRC. In other words, it did not know about the existence of the Friends and Supporters of the CRC-----