Áine Collins (Cork North West, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

With all due respect, I was not for a minute saying that. My point is that Mr. Cregan is implementing the policy that has been designed, and it is his job to do that, but in order to get to where we all need to get to on this - I understand from what Ms McGuinness stated earlier that another 60 of them are still outside of where they need to be - it seems that these organisations should get HR help and legal advice. It would be fair for the HSE to provide that, and it should have done so. Whether they asked for it is irrelevant. The HSE is the body in charge of them. It is the body that pays them. It is asking them to change their policies and their employment contracts with their employees even though they have a separate employment contract from that of the HSE. It is not as straightforward as we would all like it to be.