John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

We understand that those challenges are very significant. We are not questioning the policy or the political input in terms of budgets. We are questioning operational matters and the figures speak for themselves. The Comptroller and Auditor General reports over the past few years speak for themselves. They are there for everyone to read. I strongly hold the view that I hold. I have not changed one iota and what Dr. McLoughlin has said to me today has not convinced me that he understands what is going on. The fact of the matter is that people around this table and other committees in this House have applauded and commented favourably on the work that is being done by the front-line services. In my opinion, those people on the front line are the band aid that holds the system together.

Is it agreed to dispose of Vote 38, Vote 39 and chapters 21 and 22 of the 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General? Agreed.