Mr. Robert K. Olson:

We got access but I had to jump some hoops. They are very reluctant to give that. At the time I went to the then Commissioner, Mr. Martin Callinan, and gave the reason I needed to look at something. He did so and accommodated us with one of their machines. Unlike GSOC, frankly I would not have a PULSE machine in my office and have to be responsible for it. We do not need it all the time but we need to go when we need to go. If somebody is there while we are using it we do not care but we need to get access.