Mr. John Moran:

I think everybody understands there were failings in the system. It is very difficult with hindsight to try to decide what one would or would not have done. One observation I had during the time I was there was that compared with other environments in which I had worked, we were looking at a series of challenges that were being managed by people that were critical point issues to be dealt with across the system. Even at that stage, there was some limited information in terms of being able to deal with them. It is easy to say that in other environments we would have seen more people dealing with those issues. However, people took the decisions, which were perhaps understandable at the time in terms of budgetary restrictions, not to resource the problems as much as they might have. One of the lessons is that we have to find a just medium, both at this committee and elsewhere, to avoid creating an environment where people are afraid to spend money and invest in dealing with problems.