Mr. Hugh Governey:

My recollection of the situation at the time was that we received a formal letter - we, the Rehab Group; I am not sure it was addressed to Angela Kerins - of invitation with the four agenda items at the top of the letter. I think the wording of the letter was something like "inviting Ms Kerins and her officials to attend" and so on. I still have not seen the e-mail but, apparently, subsequently an e-mail was sent to Angela Kerins, I believe. I have not seen the e-mail. I do recall a discussion. I do not recall who else was there for the discussion. The discussion was around who was going to attend the meeting.

The decision had already been made based on the letter which we had received to the effect that the appropriate people to attend were Angela Kerins, as chief executive, and her three senior managers, each of whom had responsibility for one specific item on the agenda. I think I am correct in saying that nowhere in the agenda was there a reference to remuneration. In any event, I recall Angela Kerins mentioning the fact that there was a suggestion - I do not recall exactly what words were used - that the remuneration committee might attend. Ms Kerins said that she had spoken with the clerk about how many were expected from Rehab Group. I believe the clerk indicated something to Ms Kerins in that conversation Again, I am repeating what I understand Ms Kerins said to me. I understand the reason she made the call was to clarify how many people the clerk expected from Rehab Group. The response indicated that because there were people coming from the Department of Justice and Equality, the Department of Social Protection and the HSE and so on, it would be rather crowded and that four or five would be in or around the number. That did not appear to leave room for the chairman and members of the remuneration committee to come and we did not appear on the agenda in any event. I am simply giving my honest recollection of the sort of communication that took place.