Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

With regard to sections 38 and 39 and governance in St. Vincent's, Mr. O'Brien is right that it is not about the individual personality or the person but the governance.

I asked him earlier about the business plan. If an organisation submits a business plan to the HSE what is the criteria for its acceptance? If Mr. O'Brien is referring to compliance with Government policy or pay policy, are we allowing a situation where some of the organisations can have a salary paid in excess of the recommended salary?