Mr. John Daly:

We pay a reduced rate for providing the services. What they pay their staff has nothing to do with An Post. We pay PostPoint retailers a reduced rate than postmasters. As I stated, if we do not do it, the competition will. Nobody should be under any illusion that, if PostPoint was not operating today in shopping centres, people would be going into post offices to pay their bills or top up their phones; they would be going to the competition. We are making sure An Post is in the strongest position to provide services and that An Post's retail business is viable.