Mr. Tony O'Brien:

Most of the section 38 organisations would be smaller in scale than a large Dublin academic teaching hospital. From the exercise we have gone through with section 38 organisations, we know there are instances of payments that bring the total remuneration package to a level that is in excess of the maximum provided. However, the largest job in a section 38 organisation is that of chief executive of one of the big academic teaching hospitals, and that comes in at around €134,000.