Mr. John O'Mahoney:

I became aware during the course of the investigation there had been an incident as the Commissioner described.

There had been an incident, as the Commissioner described, and I was also aware that both of those persons had been issued with a direction that if they wanted to make their complaints, I was available to receive them. I waited for their contact but it did not come.

During the course of the investigation, around February 2013, one of those whistleblowers had extensive contact with a chief superintendent who was investigating the complaints about confidential fraud reporting. I was aware of that process and of the complaints he had made in that regard, and that the complaints mirrored strongly some of the issues I was investigating.