Mr. Martin Callinan:

The Deputy has a view and of course is entitled to her view. That 66,407 reflects a three and a half-year period, that distils down to 10,700. Moreover, as we have described earlier, we have the figures all the way down to less than two per week per district. If the Deputy believes that to be too many, that is fine and she is entitled to her view. I am putting it in perspective for her. What I do not subscribe to is the issue of 5%. I already have indicated that the 5%, or the 4.55% that Mr. O'Mahoney found in his inquiry, is distilled down further to 2.57%. Consequently, I have not conceded at any point in our discussion and nor will I concede at any point in the future to the notion that if one knows a garda or a superintendent or an inspector and because of the relationship one has with him or her, matters will be looked after. I do not subscribe to that view. I take the view that people must act professionally and where they do not, they are disciplined or are sanctioned in some other fashion. As far as I am concerned, it is a straight cut.