Mr. Martin Callinan:

Exactly. It is not disseminated to a third party. There is a technical breach here in regard to doing what they are doing because one should not be on the PULSE computer system, trawling the system, looking for issues unless one has a specific purpose. The data protection laws are quite specific. We are afforded great latitude under those laws in terms of the prevention and detection of crime. What are these individuals doing in their particular place of work? Obviously, they are charged with the responsibility of protecting the communities where they work. It is very clear to me from the amount of documentation that I have seen in the assistant commissioner's report that countless hours must have been spent on the computer, searching and printing. That is clearly wrong. By any stretch of the imagination, that is wrong. It is a far different matter if a member of An Garda Síochána observes something that is wrong, that he or she knows is wrong, and reports that or needs to get into the computer system to find out the particular circumstances surrounding it. That is one thing but to go into a system and trawl through the system looking for difficulties or perceived wrongdoing is patently wrong. That is not to say that if a member is aware of wrongdoing and knows that there is wrongdoing, that he or she should not report it. They are two different things. Am I making myself clear?