Mr. Martin Callinan:

Going to court is an expensive item, as we all know, because it involves time used by the particular individual, for example, loss of business. It involves employing a solicitor in a number of instances. It is the volume that the courtroom must deal with. There are huge expenses and factors involved. In our case, if a member has to go to court, I must pay that person overtime if they are not rostered for duty. Beyond that, the Courts Service has issues.