John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Mr. Conlan did not tell us that earlier. He is economic with the truth here, or with the facts. That is the frustration being experienced by members. I must draw Mr. Conlan's attention to the importance of this meeting and the evidence being given. It would appear to me that Mr. Conlan is not giving the full picture when he is asked questions. It is hard to believe some of his remarks and commentary. It is a fact here, noted in the minute of 25 March, and it is in direct contradiction of what Mr. Conlan stated earlier in answer to questions from the members of this committee. It is not acceptable that Mr. Conlan would continue in this vein because the paperwork is being slowly dripped to us and we are having to extract a considerable amount of information painstakingly from him. That is totally unacceptable. I must ask Mr. Conlan, in answer to members' questions, would he please disclose the full facts.

Deputy Harris is the next speaker. I am sorry for cutting in here but it is merely to have it at such a level that at least we can get the truth out. Mr. Conlan talks about the work being done by the CRC. He lavished the staff with praise, and I agree with him, but then he goes on to causes serious damage to the organisation by the manner in which he is conducting his hearing here this morning. I caution Mr. Conlan in this regard. It is not acceptable. I want to see the full facts being explained here to members in answer to their questions.

I cited a number of issues here in regard to these minutes. I also would say to Mr. Conlan that in his opening remarks he stated, "The idea that there was a transfer of moneys from public donations directly into the salaries of a number of executives is inaccurate in itself". That is nonsense.