Professor Noel Whelan:

Discussions are ongoing as to the way forward in that regard. We are always open to public competitions and any appointments we have made, including in the case of the chief operating officer, for example, have been done by way of public competition. I expect to see that continuing. Deputy O'Donnell has raised a very valid point. The pay of Mr. Jermyn and so on will be and is subject to negotiation. That is on the private side of the fence. As Mr. O'Brien rightly said, what we do in regard to the group activities is a matter for the private company.

On the other issue, I do not see a problem. If one can visualise an organisation-----