Ms Geraldine Tallon:

Our regular meetings were not exclusively about the management of the budget, which was a matter for Irish Water and Bord Gáis Éireann. Our regular meetings and our steering derived from the implementation programme, which had been adopted and published in late 2012, and that is defined around 13 different work streams. This operation had a huge number of different moving parts and the Department as, if you like, overall owner of the project, had to keep an overview of those moving parts, some of which were explicitly within Irish Water or Bord Gáis, a lot of which were within local government and between local government and the Department. In terms, for example,-----