Mr. John Barry:

We certainly did. We would have engaged with them, principally on the difference between being a gas and a water utility. We would have taken advice from them. However, we certainly brought our own expertise in running a utility business to bear. That was at the forefront. Bord Gáis Energy people would have driven this programme from the start with that competence and expertise. We would have brought in the service providers, guided them, directed them and put down demanding schedules for them. We would have liaised with them, principally on the difference between water and gas, which was very relevant. We dealt with organisations such as Scottish Water and Thames Water.