Mr. Barry O'Brien:

We would have received correspondence, as I set out earlier, in February-March 2011, raising the entirety of issues emerging in section 38 organisations. There would have been correspondence previous to that but quite specific to individual cases on pension payments with regards to a section 38 agency which would have sought approval to pay a pension based on a salary which was not consistent with the consolidated payscales for the post. That matter would have been submitted to the Department and then to DPER, and DPER has said that to the committee in a letter. In the general sense, it was in that period in 2011, when we were asked to seek and engage directly with all section 38 organisations that we would have pursued the matter.