James Reilly (Dublin North, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I am interested in real outcomes for patients. It is very hard when someone over on the left here wants to live in cloud cuckoo land. I will leave Deputy Healy to his prism, whatever that might be.

I do not have the actual cost of agency nurses and doctors. If we do not have it here, I will certainly undertake to come back to the Deputy because that is a very reasonable question to ask.

Deputy Neville asked about the €35 million for mental health and recruitment. Recruitment is ongoing. The €20 million to which he alluded is actually Department of Health money rather than HSE money. There are some time-related savings because some of this staff, not just nurses but also psychologists and other therapists we need, are quite hard to recruit. There is quite a long lead-in time between recruitment-----