Ms Brigid Quilligan:

That was going to be my central point. In terms of clarification, from my perspective as a Traveller activist, with regard to vocational education, what traditionally happened to Traveller children and young people is that after the age of 12 or 13 years they would never transfer to secondary school but would be routed into training centres with a vocational theme. Rather than community colleges, these were places where there were very low expectations and people would learn sewing, knitting and cooking.