Mr. Tom Moran:

Yes, I am happy that they are maximised. Am I satisfied that they will always be successful? No - nobody can be. No major company or country can be. We have had these discussions with the biggest food company in the world. We spent a day with Nestlé and went through these kind of issues with it. If one asks Nestlé the same question, that would be the answer one would get. One can never stop improving or consolidating the controls one has. It is something that needs to be spread right down to primary production level and right up to the final moment. The Senator will be aware of that. I know I am preaching to the converted.

In respect of greening, we are not in a position to say precisely how we will apply the flexibilities we did get. I made a point in respect of convergence that the Irish model was something we fought for. People can draw conclusions from that. We also pushed very strongly for the logic of variable greening so that the greening would relate to the payment of the individual. That is a green point as well an equitable point because if somebody was getting a large payment and the element of that which related to greening was so small that it did not make a difference, it would be an anti-greening mechanism because the incentive is not there. By making it a percentage of a person's single payment, one is enhancing the greening element of the CAP.