Shane Ross (Dublin South, Independent) | Oireachtas source

Perhaps we will have to come back to it later. We are aware that things are going to happen. Could Mr. Ó Foghlú just tell me whether in his experience it is not extraordinary – Mr. Ó Foghlú accepted some of the blame himself – that one has a situation where one has a board, an internal audit committee, staff, an external audit committee, a governing body, a chairman, the Department and the HEA and yet this sort of thing can go on? Is that not unprecedented and extraordinary?