John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I am not interested in systems. There are people operating those systems. We are tired of hearing about systems in this committee. People were operating the systems of management and those who were overseeing those systems did not raise an issue or ring any bell. The Department did not pick up on it and neither did the HEA. Things went merrily along until such time as a financial issue arose. That is extraordinary because people are given the responsibility to do this particular job, yet they seem not to have completed the task. They did not raise any issue about this. It has cost €30,000 per year and many more hundreds of thousands of euro thereafter because people sat on their hands. That is essentially what happened here. That is what I am taking from it.

Mr. Neavyn mentioned a particular invoice for €4,200 for the journey. In his remarks, he said the chairman and president signed off on that. Was that invoice not queried?