Mr. Robert Watt:

Yes, that is the total. It is actually lower than I thought. It is a net figure. So the net figure is €2.5 billion. The gross figure is about €3.1 billion. If one looks through, the biggest areas are as one expects. The gross figures there would be better again. I will give them to the Deputy - €3 billion is the number. Our own Vote, the Civil Service, was mentioned. An Garda Síochána is €300 million for 2013. For education it is €1.1 billion for pensions alone. That is an issue within the education Vote which has to be managed every year. As teachers retire they are replaced, so obviously the cost of the new teacher is lower than the cost of the retiring teacher. When one adds in the pension then it actually leads to an increase in the Vote. We can go down through the smaller Departments. Army pensions are over €200 million now. Army personnel retire younger. The HSE then is over €750 million. The details are set out in table 5 of the Estimates.